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Rhetorical Fallacy/Paradox General
09/26/22(Mon)20:25:21 No.60951

I'm hoping to start a general thread, like a humor thread, collecting rhetorical fallacies and paradoxes, and perhaps some discussion on when they are and are not valid, and any resources to follow up on.

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I'll start with my favorite fallacy, The Politician's Fallacy:

1. We must do something! (for the purposes of this fallacy we assume this part is actually true and everyone agrees)
2. My policy is something! (ditto)
3. Therefore we must do my policy! (fallacious; why can't we do a different policy that is also something?)

I see this fallacy being strongly effective at influencing which platforms people use.

1. Twitter is a biased microblogging platform! (true)
2. Truth Social is an alternative to Twitter! (true)
3. Therefore switch to Truth Social! (fallacious; why not switch to fediverse?)

or

1. USD is a manipulated currency! (true)
2. Crypto is an alternative currency! (true)
3. Therefore switch to crypto! (fallacious; why not switch to a sane currency?)

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I have recently become interested in rhetorical fallacies.

I used to be turned off by fallacies because people always used them in stupid ways. For example I'd say I'm not taking health advice from someone that weighs 300 lbs and people would be like hurr durr ad hominem.

Or people would provide an example of a fallacy that made sense but that was so abstract and stupid nobody would ever actually make it or fall for it.

But now I think fallacies can be useful if you are careful to realize that they sometimes are valid and sometimes not, and I've been noticing more situations where people are actually falling victim (not hurr durr they disagree with me therefore they're a victim but they actually legitimately are fucking over their own self-interest and priors because of misplaced trust) to fallacies by manipulative leaders.
Appeal to Reason
here is a fallacy
>I want to live so I consume and destroy things
>I live and love it but I am a human
>Someone else consumes me
>He does it to live longer and loves it
>He is a monster
>>61368

>We want to do something government doesn't like
>There might be a fed between us
>The fed wants to do what government doesn't like to prove he is not a fed
>You want to do something the government doesn't like
>You are a fed!
>>61368

This is good, sounds connected to tu quoque

>>61369

This is good, it's like witch trial logic, I can't find a name of it though.

Reminds me of https://existentialcomics.com/comic/49 and how you can't evaluate the truth of a hypothesis in a vaccuum, you have to compare it to a competing hypothesis. Differential analysis.

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12/23/20(Wed)07:56:06 No.486

>>446

https://iro2.net/list/zeqhaujs/
Merged thread, click reply to view.
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>>482

well he tried, not all of us are white after all.

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/ENpol/ - tg group for memes and news about shit
10/14/22(Fri)10:36:32 No.61360
>>61361

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>>61360

https://t.me/politics_news_debates

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Let's Discuss Transmissions
10/02/22(Sun)14:05:41 No.61021
>>61042

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/chgo/ - Chicago General
07/04/21(Sun)17:48:45 No.36438
>>37939

Shared:
illinois
Welcome, and thank you for taking the time to make your journey all the way out here! This is the general thread for all things related to Chicago, the city ruled by the despicable matriarch known as Lori Lightfoot that also holds the reign among many others that control the entirety of Illinois. One day it may change, but I cannot conceive of such a future right now.

Either way, enjoy your stay! The food is great and the based, white lower class always know how to have a good time.

Tito is happy to greet you!
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>>36438

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>>37939

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>Locals are telling me people are still grieving over the Highland Park shooter
>They are now trying to sue Smith & Wesson, the guy that did it, and his father
>They're also apparently trying to make the memorial permanent
Not intending to be incendiary, but it's not really a good look for a Jewish community to sue all these groups/people. Whatever, I hope the best for them, just as long as this stuff doesn't get in the way of my professional business. Those rich Chicagoans up north tend to be a real pain in the neck regardless. Every time I try to get a bagel or some other food while I'm out there they're always giving me some crap for the way I order my food.
One of these days I should leave this state...

Might as well bring this "General" to the Entryway since this website is barely a place where people care to explore anymore, let alone being managed by Iromoot:
>>briyoh4s⇸


>>60921

I got "global word filter auto ban" for 24 hours and it won't tell me what word or let me appeal. It's possibly because I linked to https://www.smartvotesim.com/ . This is extremely annoying and I wish someone would fix it.

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Stages
09/20/22(Tue)00:56:56 No.60877

1. Self
2. Male Friends
3. Female Friends
4. Girlfriend

Two ways to fail:
1. Have all the new stage-specific skills for stage 4, but fail anyway because pre-reqs not satisfied.
2. Have all the pre-reqs satisfied for stage 4, but fail anyway because didn't learn the new stage-specific skills.

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The Black Problem (updated)
08/26/22(Fri)03:14:01 No.60504

The blacks are conducting a reign of terror by committing massive amounts of violent crime around the globe.

We will not allow a country where people must live in fear of niggers.

!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I strongly suggest you view, learn and *share* the document available here:
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https://files.catbox.moe/as5ux6.zip (DOC format, 102 MB)
(67 pages with infographics, lulz, and more)

!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

The jews own the governments and media in the west.

The jews use their power to pass anti-white laws, run anti-white media, censor black crimes and intensely promote miscegenation and LGBT.

The jews are funding massive illegal migration in USA and Europe.

Jews genocided 60 million people, fabricated the holocaust as a distraction, framed Hitler as the bad guy, and then took over the education system to prevent people from finding out.

Jews and niggers are the oppressors, not the oppressed.

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We are in a situation where we cannot rely on or trust the governments.

Don’t count on getting the right president in, the elections are not in the hands of the people.

It takes over 3 whites worth of tax, per nigger on average, to pay to keep them alive. Jews are paying for their nigger army using your money.

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The nigger problem must be brought to everyone’s attention until it is fixed.

Whites are being punished for acting too civilized and not fighting back.

Any diversity laws must be repealed and anti-racism must be abolished.
Let me break this down:

Nobody is hating white people for white privilege. It's simply something that exists and we constantly need to remind white people that it's a thing and to combat it, they must acknowledge it and learn to be better people, combat oppression, etc

Also nobody is saying a person who has white privilege has an easy life or that they are inherently bad. Just that their skin color doesn't play a factor in the challenges they face, specially on a systematic level.
People who believe in white supremacy are not usually successful and thus derive some feeling of success because they're barely similar to some successful people that lived hundreds of years ago
I despise the concept of white privilege that people push, because it seems to imply that implicit bias is inherently evil and needs to be overcome. Such biases are not only natural, but something intrinsic to every human being. It might as well be another equal form of discrimination based on race to target people with white biases, in my mind at least.

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08/26/22(Fri)18:10:21 No.60509

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>>15783

Not just you, it was a popular aesthetic for a good while. Earlier than just the 2000s though, in the 80s and 90s Egyptian stuff was big in videogames, I guess that bled into cartoons.
>>15811

Interesting. Not that I mind, it gave us Vexus after all. Now that you mention it, I do remember plenty of egyptian themed vidya levels. Like in SS: First Encounter
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